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There is glaring division in America that continues to grow. Dennis & Julie discuss the battle lines, and the seeds of its origin. Was the country more divided in the Sixties? What can you do to navigate the great divide? Is there any hope for a “United” States?

Topics include: scientific discoveries in the last century by Darwin and Einstein led to the division we are now living in; is it worse today than it was the Sixties; scientific relativism vs moral relativism; this is the first generation of pessimism because of the constant drum beat of systemic racism and climate change; is there hope that this divide will resolve, and how; there is hope but no chance; we must stand up and fight; we owe it to the fighters that came before us; as America weakens, cruelty increases in the world; standing up for your principles will cost you friendships.